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Diego, no te preocupes que todo se resuelve, ya veras.
El calcio alto y kH alto pueden hacer precipitar muchas cosas, efectivamente. Es una de las cosas a controlar,
El sodio carbonato y el sodio bicarbonato (este es el bicarbonato de toda la vida) sirven para ajustar el kH. El carbonato ademas sube mucho el pH y puede precipitar muchos iones. No tienes que ponerlos si no hace falta. Con el reactor ya llega.
El cambio de agua le vendra fenomenal. Normalmente es la solucion mas efectiva y mas barata, pero muy pocas veces se suele hacer. Si puedes adelante.
Diego, pues cuando hay problemas, cuanta mas mejor. Si puedes cogerla del mar limpita y arreglarla perfecto.
Las precipitaciones extrañas tambien se dan en acuarios viejos, donde ya hay un desequilibrio ionico tremendo por haber estado añadiendo muchisimas cosas.
El unico remedio, y completamente efectivo, es cambiar agua.
Hola Juan Carlos, si has pasado un par de dias, y viendo que el fosforo te baja te diria de seguir una semana como el dia 7 de la otra tabla, a ver si bajan tambien los nitratos. Estos tardaras mas en verificar la bajada por la medicion.
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[TR]
[TD]Semana
[/TD]
[TD]4
[/TD]
[TD]fecha
[/TD]
[TD]10/3
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Acuario
[/TD]
[TD]250
[/TD]
[TD]litros
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[TD]Sump[/TD]
[TD]100
[/TD]
[TD]litros[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Corales[/TD]
[TD]SPS[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[TD]LSP[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Blandos[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Nitratos[/TD]
[TD]5
[/TD]
[TD]mg/l[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Fosfatos[/TD]
[TD]0,03
[/TD]
[TD]mg/l
[/TD]
[TD]Fosforo
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[TD]ppb
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]
[/TD]
[TD]Blue[/TD]
[TD]Aminovit[/TD]
[TD]Polyper[/TD]
[TD]Proteovit[/TD]
[TD]Iron II[/TD]
[TD]Rainbow I[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Dia[/TD]
[TD]x
[/TD]
[TD]x
[/TD]
[TD]x
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]6
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]6
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]3
[/TD]
[TD]6
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]6
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]6
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]6
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD]6
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
Coral, si, es una cuestion de tiempo. El metodo se basa en procesos biologicos y lleva tiempo que se establezcan y hay que hacerlo correctamente. Tienen que desarrollarse las bacterias que usan el Blue para eliminar los nitratos, colonizar partes del acuario, crecer en numero y luego que haya suficientes es cuando empieza a notarse.
Por eso lo hacemos poco a poco.
Lo del agua no lo entiendo, no se si se ha quedado la pregunta sin borrar de antes.
Te subo un poco la tabla. Cuando bajen mas, reduciremos el Blue o aumentaremos la comida segun veamos la evolucion y lo que quieras.
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[TR]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 80"]Semana
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 80"]1/4
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, width: 80"][/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, width: 80"][/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 80"][/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 80"][/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, width: 80"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 80"]Acuario [/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 80"]500
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, width: 80"]Litros [/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 80"]Sump
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 80"] 80
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, width: 80"]Litros[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 80"]Corales[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 80"]SPS[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 80, align: right"]5
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 80"]LSP[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 80, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 80"]Blandos[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 80, align: right"]8
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl66, width: 80"][/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, width: 80"][/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, width: 80"][/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, width: 80"][/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, width: 80"][/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, width: 80"][/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 80"]Nitratos[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, width: 80"]20
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 80"]mg/l[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 80"]Fosfatos[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, width: 80"]0,5
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 80"]mg/l[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 80"]Fosforo[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, width: 80"]N/A[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 80"]ppb[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 80"]Blue [/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 80"]Aminovit[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 80"]Polyper[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 80"]Proteovit[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 80"]Iron II[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 80"]Rainbow I[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 80"]Dia[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 80"]x
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 80"]x [/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 80"]x [/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, width: 80"]x [/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, width: 80"]x [/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, width: 80"]x [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl67, width: 80"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, width: 80"]14
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, width: 80"]1
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, width: 80"]2
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl67, width: 80"]2 [/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, width: 80"]14
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, width: 80"]1
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, width: 80"] 3
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl67, width: 80"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, width: 80"]14
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, width: 80"] 1
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, width: 80"] 2
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl67, width: 80"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, width: 80"]14
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, width: 80"] 1
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, width: 80"]3
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl67, width: 80"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, width: 80"]16
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, width: 80"] 1
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, width: 80"] 3
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl67, width: 80"]6[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, width: 80"]16
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, width: 80"] 2
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, width: 80"] 3
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl67, width: 80"]7[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, width: 80"]16
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, width: 80"]1
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, width: 80"]3
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
Hola buenas por fin ayer empece a ciclar y hoy iba a empezar con el método, creo que donde me recomiendas protovit es polyper lo que quieres decir, confirmamelo porque 1 gota y por lo que he leído debes haber confundido los nombres al escribirlos.Hola buenas hace ya un top me recomendasteis esta pauta para empezar con el método, por fin el lunes me llega el acuario, y quiero empezar con el método desde un principio, la pauta del Blue y Protovit la mantengo durante todo el circulado o tengo que ir aumentando dosis o algún otro producto?
Te recuerdo cubo de 65x65x65, tengo pensado meter unos 30 kg de roca viva premium, unos 2 cts de arena ( al final la compre inerte de Seachem), pantalla led Radion Rx, se aceptan sugerencias.
Gracias de nuevo por los consejos
Coral, bien vamos por el buen camino. Te subo un poquito pero ya con tendencia a estabilizar el Bluey subir un poco la comida. Si sigue por el mismo camino pronto ya no tendremos nitratos. Ya vemos que tenemos que meter unas resinas para acabar con los fosfatos. Creo que ya podrias meter en un filtro un par de cucharadas soperas y cambiarlas cada 4 dias.
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[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl65"]Semana
[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl65, width: 80"]8/4
[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl66, width: 80"][/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl66, width: 80"][/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl65, width: 80"][/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl65, width: 80"][/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl66, width: 80"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl65, width: 80"]Acuario [/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl65, width: 80"]500
[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl66, width: 80"]Litros [/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl65, width: 80"]Sump
[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl65, width: 80"] 80
[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl66, width: 80"]Litros[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl65, width: 80"]Corales[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl65, width: 80"]SPS[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl65, width: 80, align: right"]5
[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl65, width: 80"]LSP[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl65, width: 80, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl65, width: 80"]Blandos[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl65, width: 80, align: right"]8
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl66, width: 80"][/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl66, width: 80"][/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl66, width: 80"][/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl66, width: 80"][/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl66, width: 80"][/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl66, width: 80"][/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl65, width: 80"]Nitratos[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl67, width: 80"]10
[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl65, width: 80"]mg/l[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl65, width: 80"]Fosfatos[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl67, width: 80"]0,5
[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl65, width: 80"]mg/l[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl65, width: 80"]Fosforo[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl67, width: 80"]N/A[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl65, width: 80"]ppb[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl65, width: 80"]Blue [/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl65, width: 80"]Aminovit[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl65, width: 80"]Polyper[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl65, width: 80"]Proteovit[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl65, width: 80"]Iron II[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl65, width: 80"]Rainbow I[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl65, width: 80"]Dia[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl65, width: 80"]x
[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl65, width: 80"]x [/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl65, width: 80"]x [/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl66, width: 80"]x [/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl66, width: 80"]x [/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl66, width: 80"]x [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl67, width: 80"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl67, width: 80"]16
[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl66, width: 80"]1
[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl67, width: 80"]3
[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl67, width: 80"]2 [/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl67, width: 80"]16
[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl66, width: 80"]1
[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl67, width: 80"] 3
[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl67, width: 80"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl67, width: 80"]16
[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl66, width: 80"] 1
[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl67, width: 80"] 3
[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl67, width: 80"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl67, width: 80"]16
[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl67, width: 80"] 2
[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl67, width: 80"]3
[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl67, width: 80"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl67, width: 80"]16
[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl67, width: 80"] 2
[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl67, width: 80"] 3
[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl67, width: 80"]6[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl67, width: 80"]16
[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl67, width: 80"] 2
[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl67, width: 80"] 4
[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl67, width: 80"]7[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl67, width: 80"]16
[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl67, width: 80"]2
[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl67, width: 80"]4
[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: cms_table_xl66, width: 80"]
[/TD]
[/TR]
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